Comments on: What’s The Point?

By: Tara Joyce

Tara Joyce — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:21:07 +0000

Oh, g, I just noticed that your first comment I never read in it's entirety. When it arrived in my email it was cut off so it made a lot less sense than the version I am reading here on the blog. Sorry for thinking you were asking a question… it's clear you weren't. I guess DISQUS isn't perfect.

By: Tara Joyce

Tara Joyce — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:00:54 +0000

Oh, I agree, influence is changing people's minds. But to influence,
people must see something in you or your values that they desire for
them self. Ghandi and MLK knew how to reach and connect with those who
were seeking something more than life as is. My point is you can't
change a mind that is not open to being changed. MLK didn't suddenly
turn the KKK straight but he did influence those that were seeking a
change in the world and they saw in him the leadership to make those
changes happen. But MLK wouldn't have been MLK without taking the time
and work to truly understand who he was and what his values, strengths
and passions were. I doubt very much that his level of consciousness
would have been possible without the self realization.

And I'm curious, what reference to Innerpreneurs are you speaking of
that was years ago, before Rental and Secrets of the Wealthy Mind? I'm
not familiar with it.

By: gulliver

gulliver — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:00:50 +0000

> I'm not sure what the question is.

There is no question, simply a statement.

>commercial influence but what does that have to do with changing
people's minds?

Influence *is* changing minds.
That's how the world develops.

There's waaaaaay too much often-sappy self-oriented 'oh, I'm working on myself and my karma' stuff prevalent within those associating with the term Innerpreneur - at least in the Rentel-influenced stereotype, rather than the original use many years earlier.

And, although I'm on record for 'better to do than try to lever-open closed minds', if a stated intent of an Innerpreneur is 'create social change' then there's a case for putting the stuff into wider circulation with bible-thumping zeal.

'Dedicated to promoting innerpreneurship and helping innerpreneurs make their businesses a success' is all very noble.

And, 'Greenpeace, Ghandi, MLK', some of us are trying to change the world.

One-line takeaway? I'm speaking of selfless, rather than selfish.

I don't suppose we'll ever agree and doing so isn't on my objectives. I'm simply stating an alternate view.

By: Tara Joyce

Tara Joyce — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:07:06 +0000

I'm not sure what the question is, gulliver. Innerpreneurs are the
commercial influence but what does that have to do with changing
people's minds? That isn't my role as an Innerpreneur. My business is
about me and what I can add to the world, not about what others are
doing wrong and how I can correct that. Those decisions and the
subsequent changes that result are theirs to determine. This blog, for
example, is here to help empower people to make those realizations,
not tell them how.

By: gulliver

gulliver — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:36:32 +0000

> the simple fact is we can not change people's minds and to
try, we are only wasting valuable energy that could be channelled into
Self development.

Ah, so there's where we differ.

And here's silly-old-me with a headful of 'as Innerpreneurs, we're the commercial influence of cultural shift, with better (more human in a good way) enterprise' and a Roddick-inspired activist mindset.

So there's where I'm going wrong. So the, how does that sit with this?

By: Tara Joyce

Tara Joyce — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:13:38 +0000

Hi Mike,

More than being limited by our own time restraints, energy and
knowledge, the simple fact is we can not change people's minds and to
try, we are only wasting valuable energy that could be channelled into
Self development. To me, the best way to create the change I desire is
to foster those changes within my Self and, hopefully in turn, inspire
others to do the same.

By: Mike Drips

Mike Drips — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:24:25 +0000

"Then I remember I am only responsible for me. I am not my brother’s keeper."

I couldn't agree more; it's not a flat world of total equality in any sense of the word. Your statement reminds me of a posting I made in a technical forum recently that resolved a fairly complex problem. I was taken to task by the forum moderator because I didn't explain the solution in a manner that could be easily understood by non-English readers.

Huh? Sadly English is the language I read, write and speak in.

So back to your point, we all are limited by time as well as personal energy and knowledge.